I have an RSS feed for stories mentioning atheism, and I see the same arguments made over and over again. This one particularly irked me (with my comments in italics):
Atheism's moral philosophy not consistent with Baylor's mission
Oct. 17, 2007
I feel sorry for atheists.
They are so much in the minority in American society and they are bound to feel some marginalization if not persecution.
Christians should be the last people to persecute anyone -- including atheists. But that doesn't mean Christians have to accommodate atheism as they tolerate and love atheists.
We have to recognize atheists' full freedom to believe God does not exist, but we don't have to embrace atheism as a social good.
I mostly agree. A recent episdode of the Atheist Experience (btw, I am in love with Matt D. :D ) discuss that disagreeing with another's belief system or even speaking out against it is not intolerance.
In fact, I would argue that atheism has no redeeming social value.
Atheism isn't a philosophy for living. It means you do not have a belief in any gods, period.
Atheism undermines values.
It's not a life philosophy that speaks to values. It's a lack of belief.
How? Let's look at care for others. Yes, an individual atheist might care for other people. But when have you heard of an entire atheist organization serving the poor, the sick or the hungry?
At least he admits individual atheists can be good. But atheism isn't a religion with a goal of social good. It's like saying that lack of belief in qualia undermines values because you don't see aqualist groups helping the poor. And millions of them contribute money and time to charitable organizations in addition to just being good people who help their neighbors, family, friends, or even strangers. Sorry we don't wear atheist necklaces around their neck or proselytize when they serve soup to the homeless.
So far, at least, atheists haven't demonstrated their concern for others in any organized way.
How does he know this?
But more importantly, atheism undermines values such as care for others because it cannot explain why anyone should care for others. *Sigh* It's the old, "Why don't you go out and rape and pillage if you don't believ in God?" argument. If you don't think you would care for others if there was no God, then I don't want to be alone in a room with you. It's a natural act, like eating, shitting and having sex. If you can empathize, it's hard not to care for others. Their pain is your pain.
If there is no God or anything at all above nature, then nature is all there is. The law of nature is survival of the fittest. I won't go on about how evolution works, but yes, I agree that the universe is an indifferent place.
Why help the less fit survive unless there is a God who loves them because they are created in his image? Just because the inanimate workings of the universe are indifferent doesn't mean we are, too. We have subjective experiences such as pleasure, pain, and empathy for others.
What argument can atheism marshal against "might makes right"?
None. Atheism doesn't address this question. But who the hell wants to live in a dog eat dog world with zero sanctuary from acts of genocide, slavery and dehuminization of women? (you know, like life in Biblical times, often times condoned or perpetrated by God and his favorite people) . Pick up a book on ethical or political philosophy for secular arguments against might makes right.
Many atheists argue that caring for others can be encouraged based on self-interest.
Atheism does not address the issue of altruism.
Personally, I do believe the idea of altruism is meaningless because there is always some motivation to do good: to avoid guilt, to feel good knowing someone else is happy, to bolster one's self-image as a good person, obligation, to get something in return, to promote social order, out of fear of God, to show love for God, to lure small children into the back of your van, and on and on.
But what answer can an atheist give (that is consistent with atheism) to the question, "What if I figure out a way to be personally happy and fulfilled while oppressing other people?"
Why doesn't this apply to Christians as well? As Emo Phillips said, "When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me. "
But actually there are people who are happy oppressing others. They are called sociopaths. Does that prove there is a God?
There is no answer to that without appeal to someone transcendent to whom we are all accountable.
Hello, what about empathy??
And atheism has no answer to social Darwinism -- the idea that society should not help the weak because it's nature's way to weed out the less fit.
Reiteration of the same basic argument. He probably brings up social Darwinism in order to confuse people into thinking it is somehow part of Darwin's theory of evolution, which it is not.
Helping the weak goes against nature and if nature is all there is, well, why should we fight it?
First, it doesn't go against "nature". Helping behavior is ubiquitous in nature. Second,this is just an appeal to nature fallacy .
A person might choose to, but not because of any transcendent, objective obligation (such as that all persons are created in God's image). I think I probably agree with this, but why does this matter?
Not only does atheism undermine values; it also undermines meaning. I'm talking about meaningful reality -- life with meaning and purpose.Atheism doesn't address this. People give their lives there own meaning. How is finding meaning through love for God different from meaning from love for fellow humans, the beauty of the Earth, life, art, music, fighting for a better world, family and friends? If anything, knowing that once you die you will live forever in a place infinitely more happy than one's current life on Earth should make life on Earth much less meaningful. In contrast, I know I only go around once, so I might as well give it as much meaning as possible.
German theologian Hans Küng wrote Does God Exist? An Answer for Today. In it, the maverick Catholic thinker argued that atheism can provide no basis for "basic trust" in the meaningfulness of reality.
The only logical option for the atheist is nihilism -- belief that nothing has any objective meaning or purpose.
Küng admitted that atheism is a rational "basic choice" and it cannot be proven wrong in any kind of absolute way. Some atheists may agree with this. I think I do, too.
But most atheists demonstrate their basic trust in the meaningfulness of reality by being outraged at evil and injustice, thereby demonstrating that atheism cannot be lived out consistently. Many people believe in determinism. They don't all kill themselves or suddenly feel like robots. But that doesn't make them wrong. Likewise, many people deeply believe that God is watching them at every moment, but that doesn't stop them from having premarital sex, molesting children, or stealing. Again, that doesn't mean their belief is wrong.
What makes something evil or unjust if nothing like God exists -- if nature is all there is? Only subjective choice either by an individual or a society. But that can change and it often does. Without God, the social prophet has no way out of relativism.
Agreed. For example, the way people's interpretation of the moral message of the Bible has changed over the millenia.
Baylor and universities like it exist to promote objective values and meaningful existence.
For them atheism is not benign, but the enemy -- even if atheists themselves are not.
Finally, let me repeat that I have nothing against atheists as persons and neither does Baylor University.
No problem here.
But in my opinion, they are people of character and virtue in spite of their philosophy of life -- not because of it.
Well actually, I found an article via the Atheist Experience blog by Richard Dawkins asserting just the opposite at the end of which he repeats the quote of Steven Weinberg, "With or without [religion] you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion." (I would replace religion with dogma. I think a dogmatic ideology is just as dangerous.
Dr. Roger Olson is a professor of theology in George W. Truett Theological Seminary.
But what it all boils down to is this. Whether or not atheists or theists commit good acts has not bearing on whether or not there is sufficient evidence to believe in any gods. This entire essay is an appeal to consequences.
The many articles I read are an example of the many misunderstandings about why people are atheists, what it means, and what it says about us. Although all the recent attention atheists are currently receiving seems mostly negative, I think many observers of this new exchange of ideas (however heated) will learn a bit more about atheism, become more accepting of it, or hell, even become atheist themselves.
(As an example, there were thoughtful responses to this essay from the Baylor community.)